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So I need to find a love nest for [livejournal.com profile] redcountess and myself toot bloody sweet. [livejournal.com profile] marnameow has pointed out that just south of the river is vastly underappreciated, and also we should be able to find a decent flat for £700-800 a month. She's been suggesting stuff along the Southwark/Bermondsey/Rotherhite axis. Liz has been sniffing online around New Cross and environs.

Actual requirements are that it have two bedrooms and be really close to public transport (Tube preferred, train maybe). Nice things would be ground floor and all on one level. Location is the least of our worries - north, south, east or west - unless it's a shithole or truly light-years out of town. Must not be a pain in the arse to get to Knightsbridge (Piccadilly line), where I work.

So. Tell me about where you live, and where you've looked in the past. Please go into as much detail as possible.

(You can tell it's Friday, can't you.)

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Date: 2003-02-28 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] incy.livejournal.com
Have lived in Barnet, Hendon and Hampstead since coming back to London. Not bad for communication links, though Barnet was getting to a bit out of town. None of the areas was areas really bad to live in. All have been on the tube.

i was spending a long ime moving last time I moved and looked at lots of parts of London so if you want any firmer opinions...

AS for Southwark and Rotherhithe, they had nice bits, but Ic oudl afford them and they tended to go down hill as you got away from teh river (but it is also possible I have different crtiteria to you).

If it is any help these web sites give ideas of what an area is like and other local info:
http://www.upmystreet.com/
http://localtil.thisislondon.co.uk/pages/local_london/start.html

though the second one does tend to look at everything thorugh slightly rose tinted specs (probably because they also have rental/sales listings attached), but not to extremes and is still fairly useful.

HTH

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Date: 2003-02-28 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhaelan.livejournal.com
In Beckton right now, around five minutes from Beckton Park DLR. Rent is £715 per month for a two-bedroom house with front and back garden. Can let you know the post code if you want to use UpYourStreet to look around the area. Around twenty minutes on the DLR to Canary Wharf or forty to Bank, though you can change at Canning Town to get into the centre of the city via the Jubilee line as well.

Area's real quite, plenty of parks nearby but a slight lack of facilities other than an Asda superstore that is about five or ten minutes walk. There's a fairly large retail park that's twenty minutes walk and East Ham, including just about everything, is about forty-five minutes walk away. Nightbuses to the Asda superstone run every hour from Trafalgar Square.

Not many flats available locally, but plenty of two- and three- bedroom houses. Shout if you want further details or if you want to wander over..

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Date: 2003-02-28 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phelyan.livejournal.com
Think the border West Hampstead-Cricklewood is quite a place to live. Especially in Cricklewood you should be able to afford a little place. Not glorious, but a cracking area to live in. Stayed there for a year with my girl, and I can only recommend it

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Date: 2003-02-28 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevek.livejournal.com
You're in Brockley? I didn't know that! I pass through Brockley daily on the train to London Bridge! I'm in Norwood.

No tube, but there is a train to either London Bridge or Victoria and, of course, we have the trams!

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Date: 2003-02-28 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
upmystreet.com has said that several of my former areas, which I thought were rather nice, were dubious. Keep in mind they seem to look at things from a *very* white middle class family perspective.

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Date: 2003-02-28 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevek.livejournal.com
Nope, I'm on a stopping one in the mornings... but by the time you're at the station I'm on the Jubilee or Bakerloo Line!

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Date: 2003-02-28 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com
The sizeable 2-bedroom flat I share with Michael is £866 a month; cats and pets are welcome. Council tax is about £900 a year. NTL do cable modem to the area. We let through Select Agencies (http://www.selectagencies.co.uk/index.html) in Southgate; very friendly little estate agent, who have a lot of similar properties on their books. They have photos of all properties available for viewing.

The flat itself is in Winchmore Hill, a 15-minute walk to either Southgate (Piccadilly Line, 40-minute run to Knightsbridge) or to Winchmore Hill station (WAGN, runs to Kings Cross and Moorgate via Finsbury Park). Nice quiet area; 24-hour ASDA in Southgate, or a Sainsburys just 10 minutes' walk round the corner. Also a nice friendly local cab office; fare from our flat to Southgate is £3, or £3.50 to ASDA. Two parks within walking distance, several pubs that do reasonable food (and one that stocks over a hundred different single malt whiskeys...!). An excellent vet just 5 minutes down the road from Winchmore Hill station that I can heartily endorse.

Local hospital is Chase Farm, reassuringly close nearby but not so close that you'd be bothered by the sounds of ambulances. A lot of local doctor's surgeries have had to close their lists to new patients recently, but Gillam House Surgery in nearby Palmer's Green (25 minute walk, or 10 minute cab ride - fare is usually £4) still has space on the books. Dr A. R. Dick is an excellent doctor; friendly and open-minded.

Anything else?

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Date: 2003-02-28 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com
Further to my last comment, the following two places are on Select's books:

De Bohun Avenue, Southgate, N14 (http://www.selectagencies.co.uk/result.asp?SearchIndex=527) - A second (Top) floor flat, within easy walking distance to Southgate Tube Station, large lounge, 2 double bedrooms, 2 bathrooms (one en-suite), large appliance fitted kitchen/diner, furnished/unfurnished. Available now. £207 PW. (£897 PM)

Belmont Close, Cockfosters, EN4 (http://www.selectagencies.co.uk/result.asp?SearchIndex=528) - A lovely three bedroom first floor flat located in this prestigious location, lounge leading into dinning room with polished wooden floor,(leather sofas in lounge and dining table and chairs in dining room) fitted kitchen, bathroom, sep w.c., 1 double bedroom and 2 singles, furnished. Available 31st March 2003. £209 PW. (£902.66 PM)

That second one is perhaps more expensive than you were looking for; on the other hand, it is a house, and you could perhaps get another person to share? Available from the end of March, so you'd have time to find another person.

Hope it all helps....

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Date: 2003-02-28 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksta.livejournal.com
one word for you -
Croydon. :)

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Date: 2003-02-28 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverfiligree.livejournal.com
Try this link (http://www.dfes.gov.uk/performancetables) which I've been using to choose where to live. I know you're not looking for schools, but the quality of the schools in the immediate vicinity does give a clue to the area.

I've lived in:

Hounslow - really shabby and overpowered by the noise of planes coming in to land at Heathrow. Allegedly about to be gentrified but don't hold your breath. It is, however, on the Piccadilly Line.

Rayner's Lane - rather nice in a suburban way, in the heart of Metroland. It does have an fast tube link into Baker Street, when I lived there I had the quickest journey to Regent's Park ever, even though it was the furthest in terms of distance.

Wood Green - what a dump. It gets better northwards towards Bounds Green, worse southwards towards Manor House. Fantastic kebab shops, worrying street crime and sky high Council Tax. It is however relatively cheap considering it is in Zone 3.

Tooting Bec - I'd happily stay here if I could afford the property prices. The area immediately around the station is fine, there are loads of good, cheap curry houses and it's on the Northern Line. There is a nightbus and you're one stop from Balham with rail links to Victoria, Croydon or Brighton if you fancy a day out. I'm not sure what the rental prices are like since I've only ever been a homeowner round here.

Ladbroke Grove - *lmao* I grew up there but I can't imagine being able to afford a private let there! Lots of transport, handy for the Portobello Market etc but really expensive these days :(

I've been told the area round Stockwell is really rough - now that Brixton is being gentrified, the scum have oozed along a bit.

Do remember to check the Council Tax rates and the Travelcard Zone - there's no point saving 5 UKP a week by moving outwards if your fares to work increase by 10!

thetube.com has journey planners. You could use that to calculate how long your journey to work would take - similarly the Railtrack site for overland journeys. Using them you could create a rough circle with Knightsbridge at the epicentre, and househunt within the circle.

There are sites (you'd need to Google) that will quote you for home insurance for any postcode. That could serve as a rough guide to the quality of the area.

You can tell I take a scientific approach to househunting, right up to the moment where I spot the stained glass/honeysuckle/turret and lose all my common sense!

Good luck.

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Date: 2003-02-28 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zeke-hubris.livejournal.com
Do NOT, for any reason whatsoever, even consider Croydon.

maida vale

Date: 2003-02-28 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufus.livejournal.com
I lived there in 1998-1999, at which time it was quiet but pretty good. Plenty of shops, one little antqiue store and easy tube access (Bakerloo line, half hour to Oxford st.). My apt. was a 1 BR for 900 pounds or so per month, but you might be able to find a better price, because my apt. was a pokey little place that was decidedly overpriced.

I *liked* Maida Vale because it was serene and had green spaces, and wide tree-lined boulevards. It didn't even feel like London, half the time.

Getting to Slimelight was a pain, though.

I looked at a bunch of places before settling there; one of them was basically someone's backyard shed with a tree growing through it (Golders Green, i think?) and one was a dreary little place in Wimbledon. The one I *should* have taken was a ginormous place in, I think, Hempstead. Which I passed on because it was more than two blocks from the train.

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Date: 2003-02-28 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
I haven't lived in London, but the friends I stay with are in Muswell Hill, which I absolutely adore. There's a Sainsburys, a M&S, a cinema, video rental shop, all the usual amenities and takeaways. The drawbacks are it's not on the tube (the bus to Highgate station for Northern line is quick, but the other bus to Finsbury Park for Piccadilly and Victoria lines allegedly takes an hour at rush hour). There is, however, a bus direct to Camden. And it's probably a bit pricey.

One of my ex-co-workers just moved to Battersea. It's not too expensive and he likes it, but the attraction may be that he works just over the bridge in Chelsea.

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Date: 2003-02-28 01:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] satsumagirl
Battersea is quite nice,and if you work in Knightsbridge you can get quite quickly by bus.

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Date: 2003-02-28 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevenothing.livejournal.com
I lived in newcross/brockley (manor avenue, to be exact) area, about 15 minutes walk from new cross/new cross gate/brockley, which if you don't mind a little walk is pretty well suited for transport. The place I was in was quite nice, but bordered on to some less nice areas. Could be a bit scary at times, with the police constantly sticking "Appeal for witness: violent assault" signs outside our house and the like, but I never had any trouble in the time I lived there. Fairy reasonable prices too.

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Date: 2003-02-28 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redcountess
Yeah, I've been factoring in fares and council tax - with the latter do you pay it in one lump or monthly?

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Date: 2003-02-28 07:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redcountess
Thankyou, it does, although we don't want to pay more than £800 per month, to give us some breathing space.

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Date: 2003-03-01 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frou-frou.livejournal.com
I lived in three places in Crouch end, bottom of Muswell Hill and loved it. Downside: a bus ride to the tube (Finsbury Park) or a 15 minute walk to Highgate station. It was worth it for the lifestyle, but I'll bet it's not as affordable as it was in 91-93...

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Date: 2003-03-03 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giolla.livejournal.com
Get a bicycle and your options for getting to work are a lot better, and besides cycling in London is fun!