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[livejournal.com profile] arkady's first-hand report on the flat:

The waterlogged Flat of Lemonness continues to be soggy and is likely to remain so for some time. Liz and I went back to the flat this morning to meet an electrician. The heater in the bathroom was illegal, the fuseboard is still waterlogged, the vinyl flooring in kitchen and bathroom is lifting because it's backed by chipboard which is expanding, the cupboards in the kitchen - whilst intact presently - are likely to burst apart as the chipboard inside swells up. At least three electric sockets that I counted in the kitchen had uninsulated, exposed wires. There's a subtly pervasive smell of sodden dirty carpets that will doubtless get worse. The letting agent was truly horrified when he came round to see things for himself. Matters are currently in the hands of the loss adjusters; the flat will require drying out with dehumidifiers, industrial fans and driers over a period of time - and the electrician says the fuseboard needs total replacing before the power can go back on, which means either waiting until power is restored or bringing in generators.

The hall carpet and likely the living room carpet will have to be replaced. The walls and ceilings are waterstained. New flooring needs to be laid in the kitchen and bathroom. I would hate to see the bill for all the work needed to make it rehabitable again....

We're waiting to hear from the loss adjusters with regards to what is going to happen about rehousing David and Liz in the meantime. They will be inspecting the flat tomorrow, so Liz and I will be going back to meet them and find out what they have to say. In the meantime, David's rearranged stuff a little in the bedroom to make it more comfortable for himself and Liz, and Liz and I brought back some more stuff from the flat. We're also making plans to bring the boy rats over to my place where they can stay whilst all the work is taking place.

It's painfully obvious the flat will not be brought back to livable condition in the near future. On the other hand, our remaining instant credit headroom (before next pay) is about £700. Does anyone have solid information on how hard we need to push to break the lease?

I have joked about it being made of acoustically-transparent cardboard ...

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Date: 2004-11-08 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/raven_/
Ugh.

Can this site help at all?

http://www.rentamatic.co.uk/forum_main.cfm?startrow=301&id=3

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Date: 2004-11-08 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/raven_/
Yeah sorry about that bit...

But hey - free legal advice may not suck. *smooch*

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Date: 2004-11-08 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] karen2205
Citizen's Advice Bureau/Shelter/local law centre - Tenancy law is very complicated and not something I know much about.

I strongly suspect you already have a claim against your landlord for breach of contract - check through the lease - by not providing somewhere suitable for you to live they have breached the contract and you are entitled to claim damages (such that will put you in the position you would have been in had the contract been performed correctly - essentially, all the costs you've suffered in the past couple of days, the cost of any accommodation you find in the meantime, any other costs associated with moving).

Do take photos and get hold of any other evidence you can. Hearsay evidence is admissible in civil claims eg. the agent said foo to me. Write down what happens when, so you can refer back to it. Have a google for the Small Claims Court - this is designed so that you can do all the work yourself without a lawyer, and go from there.

I would imagine that the landlord doesn't have a specific duty to provide alternative accommodation (but check the lease) and that you'll have to find you own. English contract law doesn't like imposing positive duties on people to do specific things (with some exceptions) - it's sufficient remedy for you to be able to claim damages.

Whether or not their breach of contract (not providing you with somewhere to live) is sufficiently serious for you to repudiate the contract (get out of it) depends on lots of things - you *must* act quickly - if you continue to perform your side of the contract eg. by paying rent, you're taken to have accepted their breach and you must get hold of someone with some expertise in this area before you do something irrevesible.

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Date: 2004-11-09 02:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redcountess
I looked up a lot of sites on Sunday like the local council and Shelter, also a Landlord help site that had info on Section 11 of the Tenancy Act - which I quoted to the agent ;-) Unfortunately I couldn't get through to CAB.

See my latest post for latest developments (locked but will add you to f/l)

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Date: 2004-11-08 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adrasteah.livejournal.com
I'm not sure on the advice, but I'm sorry to hear about the flat :-(

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Date: 2004-11-08 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andricongirl.livejournal.com
they should be totally paying for all your expenses to move into a new flat :\
that's horrendous.

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Date: 2004-11-08 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trayce.livejournal.com
Indeed... I know the REIV in victoria has some kind of clause that says if a flat becomes inhabitable (and by criky this one has! I mean no power, danger of electrocution, damp, damage etc), the agent/owner has to rehouse the tenant AFAIK. That not the case in the UK? :/

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Date: 2004-11-10 08:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redcountess
Nope, tenancy law here is pretty much in the dark ages - there's not even legislation that a tenant's bond must be kept in trust, let alone with an independent agency :-/

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Date: 2004-11-08 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintrmute.livejournal.com
It might just be worth asking a good lawyer..?

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Date: 2004-11-09 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
What borough are you in? If you're in Hackney, there's a good law centre...

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Date: 2004-11-09 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
They're in Waltham Forest.

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Date: 2004-11-09 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] necialma.livejournal.com
get in touch with your local council as they usually detest any landlords being even slightly naughty, Also get in touch with the office of fair rents usually can get whom to contact via the council, if your tenancy is a shorthold they are very easy to break and right now you should be able to get your current place rent free check with CAB first though.

hope that is some help

snuggles to you both

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Date: 2004-11-10 08:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redcountess
Agent is being very good, refunding current month's rent in full, although I'm yet to get that in writing.

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