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Let's all sing along!

BT are pigfuckers
BT will fuck you up
BT need the Red Hot Poker of Enlightenment
Being less crap than NTL is not enough

The nice BT person [livejournal.com profile] redcountess spoke to on Friday did not schedule an engineer for Monday morning at 7am. No, he just set the 'required' time to Monday morning at 7am; the engineer was actually scheduled for Tuesday 30th (that's next week) at 10am. What a clever and helpful fellow! Liz called again yesterday morning, after we'd gotten up at 6:30am for nothing, and used the s3kr1t Telco Call-Centre Cabal Codewords to get an actual engineer who will actually connect the line and enable a telephone service scheduled for Friday morning. Then work can order our DSL.

(There's actually an NTL cable here, and Liz is tempted for the telly, but their broadband, fast as it is, is nothing like reliable enough for being on call. [livejournal.com profile] arkady's experience of them in St Albans seems to show that they are as inept as can be expected at running an ISP.)

Arkady and I finished cleaning the flat and retrieving the last of our stuff. It's now cleaner than it was when we moved in, and this only shows up the damage more. Arkady also went feral on the garden.

We went out to Tottenham Hale last night and bought a fridge (to be delivered tomorrow) and a toaster from Comet. LIDL is definitely the supermarket they have in Hell. I shudder to think what discount weissbier tastes like.

The new flat feels like home. The only vaguely citrusy aspect is damp in the front bedroom; frequent calls to the landlord are in progress.

I am at work today. I shall be revelling in sitting on my arse all day and not packing, carrying or cleaning any item whatsoever.

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Date: 2004-11-23 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markeris.livejournal.com
What rot. Lidl is brilliant, certainly the only shop in the world to have sold me booze that had both me AND Mr. Chaos unable to move for 24 hours, and then denied flatly, in a particularly grassy knoll kind of way, that they`d *ever* sold such a product when we asked why there was none on the shelves next time we went in. You`ve got to respect that sort of behaviour.

Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kineticfactory.livejournal.com
LIDL's that weird East German canned-food place, isn't it?

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 05:57 am (UTC)
vatine: Generated with some CL code and a hand-designed blackletter font (Default)
From: [personal profile] vatine
For values of "Denmark" and "Finland" more closely corresponding to "Germany" and "Netherlands" if the one near Chez Chaos is to be believed (well, the labling and brands on the goods, that is).

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com
Nope, German. I could read and understand the labelling.

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com
It was made in Denmark but labelled in German. There wasn't a single label there that I couldn't read - and I don't speak/read Danish or any of the Scandinavian languages.

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nicolai_/
Correct, they originate from Germany.

This means that around Christmas (this means NOW) they are stuffed with lebkuchen, pfeffernuessen, and other lovely German biscuits I cannot spell but will devour wholesale until diabetic shock sets in.

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com
Oh yes, I spotted the lebkuchen; they also had stöllen. My teeth are aching at the very thought!

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
Aldi is also good for this.

Re: Ostalgie-a-go-go

Date: 2004-11-23 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
ooh. There's a Lidl on my way home...

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Date: 2004-11-23 04:53 am (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
I still have a dialup connection for various reasons, but by way of decent broadband providers, I suggest you look at http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk and http://www.nildram.co.uk

Glad the moving's completed and you can begin to relax a bit.

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Date: 2004-11-23 06:42 am (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
I don't know, but I wouldn't touch NTL with a barge pole wrapped in industrial grade plastic sheeting.

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Date: 2004-11-23 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] owdbetts.livejournal.com
Broadband, telephone and tv are all separate services except that they force you to take a phone line if you take TV.

So that means if you go for DSL plus NTL TV then you'll end up paying for two phone lines (one BT and one NTL).

AIUI many of the reliability problems with cable modem service are down to the poor state of the HFC networks they inherrited. So it really depends on which cable franchise your area was in originally and how good a job they did. (And in some cases whether the area was cabled in the early days when the local cable co was trying to spend money doing things right, or in the later days when they got into financial difficulties and were trying to do network build-out on the cheap).

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Date: 2004-11-23 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
Nildram being the company that at one point randomly decided to show its customers each other's account details, I'd not touch them with a bargepole.

Go for Zen Internet.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 05:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zotz
What're UK Online like? Any idea?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoo-music-girl.livejournal.com
I used to use them for dial up and was quite impressed. I still have an email address with them, which has never expired. It's horribly spam ridden now though as I've had it so long.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:34 am (UTC)
zotz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zotz
Interesting. They're doing 8 Mbit ADSL shortly, apparently.

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Date: 2004-11-25 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawkeviper.livejournal.com
NIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO DO NOT MENTION THAT NAME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*dies* please? I beg of you? as an active member of the cPanel community - and one that has many friends in said community that work for that company abomination, I can tell you that they are sh1t. Well... they're good if you don't mind your intarweb going 'later guys, I'm out' every 20 minutes or so... actually, on second thought, I retract that, they are just shit. Plain, easy going, laid back shit, with a capital F.U.

So please, I beg of you, please don't go with Bulldog. Please?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:44 am (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
Oh - I was working on what various geeky friends had told me - I hadn't heard that.

I'll probably go with BCN when I eventually get round to broadband.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mstevens.livejournal.com
How do you find dialup these days? Is it still usable? Are web pages too large for sanity?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:48 am (UTC)
karen2205: Me with proper sized mug of coffee (Default)
From: [personal profile] karen2205
Entirely usable (except when idiots send me 4.61MB PowerPoint attachments to emails). I've a nice unmetered connection via Lobsterpot. I don't generally have a problem loading webpages - though I tend to skip flash intros and such like (but I'd do that regardless of speed, 'cos things like that annoy me anyway).

I just don't see the point paying a £60 installation fee when I suspect I'll be moving house next summer. I'm also not convinced my computer would cope with the extra modem (you've heard how tempremental it is - adding more things that could go wrong to it would be silly).

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-25 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawkeviper.livejournal.com
I can vouch for BCN. =)

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korenwolf.livejournal.com
Could be worse, they could be telewest or cable nodnol.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 10:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nisaba.livejournal.com
The Cambridge one would do that too. The way around it was to go to work, search on google for "cambridge ntl web proxy", go home, and put one of the addresses you found in your browser as a web cache. Bang, the interweb exists again.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mstevens.livejournal.com
The NTL around East London used to have a lovely speciality of mangling your requests, so you'd get error pages from remote servers indicating they'd quite reasonably refused to serve up pages with urls that looked loosely like the one you'd requested, but didn't actually exist.

I don't think I've seen that for a year or so now. They also seem to have made good progress on the ridiculously over-enthusiastic caching, which would keep old versions of frequently updated pages for weeks.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-25 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawkeviper.livejournal.com
No, no, no and er no. Do I get my prize now?

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-24 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crispygoth.livejournal.com
There's nothing wrong with telewest/blueyonder.. in fact, my blueyonder cablemodem is ten times more reliable than my parent's NTL used to be (they've since switched to ADSL as it was so bad).

And the 1mbit/s service I originally signed up for is now at 1.5mbit/s, and soon to be 2mbit/s. All for the same price.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phelyan.livejournal.com
Lidl are german, one of the two cheapest supermarket chains in germany, with Aldi being the other.

If you're poor and want decent quality you go to Aldi. They buy good quality in huge amounts and sell it cheap enough for people on benefits, students and others who have a tight budget.

If you can't even afford Aldi and don't mind bread bulked up with sawdust you go to Lidl...

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poggs.livejournal.com
NTL are OK but shite when it comes to fixing faults and communicating with their customers. That's why I moved back to BT.

Oh, and I can get 1Mb routed ASDL for £35/month. NTL put the price up to £37.99 and then gave me 1.5Mb, which I don't need as much as I need a no-NAT config at home.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loosechanj.livejournal.com
I shall be revelling in sitting on my arse all day and not packing, carrying or cleaning any item whatsoever.

Golgifrincian Telecom on line 2, they need you to do some computer moves and telephone sanitizing.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
I think I see a requirement for a link to: BT Suck (http://www.btsuck.org/) :)

Although actually I should try and clean out the last year of backed up articles in the submissions queue before I advertise that site too much...

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siani-hedgehog.livejournal.com
bt *do* suck. they have stupid policies designed to prevent you from using other mailservers. and their usenet news is worse than useless.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tintintin.livejournal.com
LILD (typo retained for mild comedy value) = OK for piss-cheap booze, like passably not-entirely-meths gin for six quid.

I refuse to consider any of the crap that purports to be 'food' in there as being anything of the sort.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkady.livejournal.com
Probably just as well I didn't spot any chocolate schnapps then. You were drooling enough over the raspberry schnapps!

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-25 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawkeviper.livejournal.com
that's why you have a friend in france =) List booze you want, transfer monies via paypal, receive booze shortly thereafter. =D

(no subject)

Date: 2004-11-23 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_nicolai_/
My NTL cable is usually quite reliable, though it's been flaking lately somewhat coincidental with heavy rain. I've never had to deal with NTL cable residentially, as it always works. I do hear they're awful to deal with, but what residential telco isn't?
(or commercial, I never did come up with an expansion of "MCI" to match "Clueless and Witless")

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Date: 2004-11-23 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angharad.livejournal.com
Just so long as the "damp" doesn't become "wet" at your new place, I suppose.

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Date: 2004-11-25 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawkeviper.livejournal.com
NTL doesn't exist anymore =P the new catchphrase is 'Tiscali'... and yeah, its shite... hell, their dial-up is shite, their TV is shite... if you can wait a while, I can do a satellite install at your place if you want that kinda tv - for pretty much nothing =)