Ladytron.

[reddragdiva]

• Fight Mandelson's Digital Economy bill. Join the Open Rights Group. £5/mo direct debit. They kick arse.

• On which topic, I wish I'd written this.

• Personally, I blame Fight Club.

• A marching band does "Personal Jesus."

• NotN: In full: The Queen's Speech; Tesco Value Internet enters the broadband market; European Union renamed "Greater Belgium".

I think that's enough Roxy Music. Early Years suggests why they were slightly musically interesting at the time, but oh God the lyrics.

I had a nice date with nyecamden on Wednesday evening. That he lives in staggering distance of work helps.

Freda has been recovering nicely and is much perkier and more playful. Her four front teeth are no longer there, so she has these two fangs and a slight lisp. She's still puzzled by the missing teeth.

Today we do more house shuffling. w00t!

A question for the geeks: what is the use case for accepting OpenID in business? Why does hardly anyone do so? Boss's boss had a customer ask if we were accepting it. It's hard enough finding providers; accepters are like hen's teeth. I can think of all sorts of caveats off the top of my head, I'm looking for examples of using it. All I know of are blogging sites that accept it as easier than filling in your name and email each time. Dreamwidth is pretty much the greatest user I know of. Is there anyone in the world who accepts it in a context where money may be involved?

Work conversation: "Right, so what's that program written in?" "Their own poop, at a guess."

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[ideological_cuddle]

stackoverflow/serverfault accept it, as does ORA's Bookworm site. That'd be about all I can think of that I've come across, bound to be others.

But none of those involve any money changing hands.

[eagle]

We use OpenID to authenticate all access to the Gerrit code review instance for OpenAFS, which is an open source project that gets a lot of commercial submissions. So money is indirectly involved. I think Gerrit standardizes on using OpenID, which would imply that other projects using Gerrit are as well (such as Android, which is what it was written for).

We've already decided it doesn't provide an acceptable level of security for most purposes at Stanford, but we have on our long-term roadmap accepting OpenID authentications for very lightly authenticated stuff (user preferences, that sort of thing).

[reddragdiva]

Did you have a writeup on the joys and risks of OpenID?

[eagle]

Unfortunately, no. We've just talked about it informally.

[liz-lowlife.livejournal.com]

Trouble with Dreamwidth is that many people give it a go but they don't stick to it regularly.
It's smooth to use though.

[reddragdiva]

I use DW and LJ for precisely the same things, so I just crosspost. Much as I use Twitter and Facebook for precisely the same things, so I just crosspost.

I'm more interested in the cross-site identity stuff OpenID offers. DW uses it way more than even LJ does. (Mostly so LJ users can participate.) It saves time filling in forms, is the only actual use I can think of. Cross-site locked posts are a hard problem.

[liz-lowlife.livejournal.com]

Yeah that is true.
I use DW precisley because of this (for my Synnie updates mainly) but people just don't follow the links!
DW works smoothly and intuitively but they don't seem to have the viral advertising in place to make it as popular as it could be.
It's a haven for net g33ks.
Twitter on the other hand.... shite as.... but everyone uses it (except me cos I think it is shite!)

And cross site locked posts are put in place for a reason!

[nyecamden.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but surely you get more comments on LJ than DW? (I'm all about the comments, don't know about you.)

[reddragdiva]

Yeah, but I don't need all the comments to be in the same place (useful though that might be).

[valkyriekaren.livejournal.com]

Why's the band leader General Zod?

[greylock.livejournal.com]

That's Brian Blessed.

Sorry...
THAT'S BRIAN BLESSED (luvvie)!!!

[vatine]

StackOverflow/ServerFault/SuperUser (all .com) allow its use for federated identification. Don't know if they actively count as "a context where money may be involved, although they are for-profit sites (ad financed, with fairly narrow-profile user bases).

[greylock.livejournal.com]

That Marching Band is 100% WIN (as the kids say).
But this related video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPe0IFR2Z0Q) is 100% scary.

[hellsop.livejournal.com]

I am not sure that the average nitwit can tell the difference between OpenID authentication and a phishing expedition. I'm not sure I'd want to be the one responsible for making sure they understood the difference either. That's the big barrier to widespread adoption: it's potentially damned dangerous. Better someone writes down yet another password than get into the habit of authenticating at random.

[bondagewoodelf.livejournal.com]

Why no OpenID in business?

Well, the problem is that information equals money. So why would someone trust a different party, that has all the information about the user that is being authenticated, while you yourself have no info about them (hence no added value).