Mega-tons of muscle kicking dust across Texas!

[reddragdiva]

Last night's B-Movie Went Off. Somehow four hours felt like six, but six good hours. arkady had her new camera so I had her old one. You would have seen her standing on the sides of the stage getting no-flash shots of the light show and having a marvellous time. I came home with 91 shots and she came home with 77. (Don't expect these up soon, we've both been enormously busy.) She also brought her new doll Taliesin, who was a major hit. As was my leather waist clincher. I now understand why people wear corsets — they feel nice. webcowgirl brought a carton of Gudangs for me and damn are they good. I've missed them so badly. Anyone want a pack of Djarums?

Today was spent doing housework and installing FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE on redcountess's PC, as she was feeling enspooned enough to sit up most of the day. Which she also ordered more memory for. What I really really hate about the FreeBSD ports system is when it spends several hours compiling something, then stops to ask you some trivial question and you have to remember to check. When it could and should have run you through the options at the start. We'll see if 6.0 sucks less than 5.3 ...

Tomorrow is a date with Arkady, to start with meeting quiet000001 in Camden to bless her with Nice Boots. Kris, please let us know where and when!

Comments

[loosechanj.livejournal.com]

What I really really hate about the FreeBSD ports system is when it spends several hours compiling something, then stops to ask you some trivial question

You'd think it would time out after a certain period and just proceed with defaults, but noooooooooooo...you can go away for the weekend and come back to a little ticky-box telling $FOO that yes indeedy you want gnome support with that. As well as 8 more hours of compiling. This is why I try to use ports as little as possible, and just install packages.

Btw, have I ever mentioned the time I went into /usr/ports/*/xmms, typed "make install", and came away several days later with a fully functional gnome installation? I shit you not.

[reddragdiva]

GNOME just downloaded and started compiling all of Mozilla 1.7.12 as well. w00t.

The really STUPID thing is that the questions are actually in the ports tree, not in the downloaded tarballs. And the dependencies are in the ports tree, not in the downloaded tarballs. This means that it could in fact traverse the tree, fetch all dialogues and ASK YOU ALL THE QUESTIONS UPFRONT instead of interspersing them at random points along a four-day compile. Jesus fuck.

[loosechanj.livejournal.com]

Why the hell are you bothering? man pkg_add, don'tcha know.

[ickle-yuki.livejournal.com]

I find Debian's apt has this at times to a lesser extent obviously due to the packaged nature rather than compiling. Can be annoying at times. Especially on a slow old box with a huge update going on.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_nicolai_/]

The stupid has been creeping into the Ports lately unfortunately.
"Install Examples?" - I don't give a shit whether you do or not, but don't ask me
"Install docs in HTML" - No, you cretin, use troff like a sensible software package.

[reddragdiva]

Indeed. Having a four-day compile stop because libobscurantistfoo DEMANDS to know RIGHT NOW if you want a left-handed foobarbaz or the normal one ...

[loosechanj.livejournal.com]

See now, that's just silly. I just pkg_add off ftp. I can see compiling if you're one of those CFLAGS -O3 maniacs, but come on. Four days? If it's all gonna take that long, I doubt it'll help.

[reddragdiva]

Many upgrades are less of a PITA with a port-compiled system than with a package-added system, and some stuff in ports doesn't hit packages for ages (linux_base-8 took about a year).

[loosechanj.livejournal.com]

Still, that doesn't mean you can't pkg_add some of the fairly meaty stuff. Like mozilla or gnome, for instance. And where do you think packages come from? Packages are compiled from ports. If you've got a faster machine around, build them from ports on it and copy the packages over. Do you ever check the packages on the ftp site? Tons more there than on the cds.

If it seems like I'm giving you a healthy dose of shite over this, it's because one of my other e-pals is a cvsup every friday night/update ports weekly kind of maniac.

[reddragdiva]

Hence my current plan of Ubuntu for my desktop (despite the l*n*x at the centre) and FreeBDSM for the server. Which won't even have X installed next time. Dammit. Mind you, if I'm running 6.0, a weekly cvsup is a damn good idea this early on.

[loosechanj.livejournal.com]

a weekly cvsup is a damn good idea this early on

And when it's done you can start it all over!

[reddragdiva]

Heh. Ah, yeah. But, price of running an x.0.

[aidan-skinner.livejournal.com]

-O3 -funrollloops -fthegoodcrack -fidontknowwhatthisdoesbutisawitonslashdotsoitmustbegood -firunixg0d -fevenifactualdeveloperslaughatmybugreports

[reddragdiva]

I believe -fgentooricer covers that nicely.

[aidan-skinner.livejournal.com]

wtf is a ricer?

[reddragdiva]

http://riceboypage.com/

http://funroll-loops.org/ - "Like the annoying teenager next door with a 90hp import sporting a 6 foot tall bolt-on wing, Gentoo users are proof that society is best served by roving gangs of armed vigilantes, dishing out swift, cold justice with baseball bats to those fucking ricer bastards."

[aidan-skinner.livejournal.com]

I thought I would be happier not knowing. I was right.