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[livejournal.com profile] damned_colonial is right: all gallery software sucks too. I've just tried Flickr and it sucks too. I suppose it's not really a gallery site (like Fotopic), more a photo blogging site. I've put up the B-Movie: Lost Boys photos from Friday on it TEMPORARILY. No captions as yet. I can't find the way to change the appearance of a set, and if I read the FAQ right then free users get three photo sets total. Hints and tips from you enthusiastic Flickr fans on how to do what I actually want would be welcomed.

Gallery 2 is still annoying me. I've beaten most of the annoyances out of it and could probably beat many of the rest out (colours, logos, etc.) by hacking the PHP. Does anyone know how to get it to email comments to you automatically? Surely you aren't supposed to iteratively check possibly thousands of photos for new comments.

Slowly coalescing at the back of my brain is what I'd need to write my own gallery system. In unspeakable shell scripts, of course. I'll probably have to learn CSS as well, after having assiduously avoided it for several years.

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Date: 2006-01-19 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loom.livejournal.com
have you tried coppermine, it was the first one I tried and I haven't tried anything else, it sends comment email, very configurable - at least it does what I need. The only compliant is it's limited to a category-gallery-image heirarchy.

Take a look at it here (http://www.dennisweavervisual.com/gallery).

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Date: 2006-01-22 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loom.livejournal.com
Soething went weird..

The URLs suck (but I can live with that)
I don't think urls can be changed

you have to tunnel too far down to get to the albums (but I can probably work around that)
Your albums are user albums, If you create them through the admin interface, they show up on the front page under categories you specify.

the flood of random images on the front annoys me (but they can probably be disabled or at least hacked out)
The front page layout is controlled through admin->config->album list view->The content of the fornt page the default is something like "breadcrumb/catlist/alblist/random,2/lastup,2"

I think that getting rid of the "random" entry will make it go away it.

but the only thing making me cough up my own skull is that you can only go from the "normal" sized image to the full original image with a JavaScript URL, not a normal clickable one, so it will ONLY open in a new window, not in a tab. Is there a config option to get rid of this behaviour?

You'll have to hack the php

function theme_html_picture() in include/theme.inc.php contains

$pic_html = "<a href=\"javascript:;\" onclick=\"MM_openBrWindow('displayimage.php?pid=$pid&fullsize=1','" . uniqid(rand()) . "','scrollbars=yes,toolbar=no,status=no,resizable=yes,width=$winsizeX,height=$winsizeY')\">";

Something like
$pic_html = "<a href=\"displayimage.php?pid=$pid&fullsize=1'\">";

should do it. It'll probably lose all the navigation stuff...

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Date: 2006-01-23 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loom.livejournal.com
I'm not actually seeing the image full size. hmm. also, the close this window javascript is still there, I'll have a look at the code when I get home tonight.

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Date: 2006-01-19 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strangedave.livejournal.com
CSS is well worth taking the time to learn, at least if you do any web stuff at all ever.

Unspeakable shell scripting I have found really isn't worth the time. It saves a lot of pain in the long run if you ever have a problem that sounds like it would be actually require thinking about to write as a shell script, just stop and write it in python instead. Some people would advice Perl instead, of course. Perverts.

Gallery software does sound like one of those things were you would assume some person would have just done it absolutely right once, and we would all use it. Tragically not.

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Date: 2006-01-19 06:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vatine
Ugh, yes, gallery software.

I have some stabs at it, scary as it is (with auto-support to build thumbnails and a single file for managing "rotate photo/thumbnail; create caption" (ratehr than a web interface, because that would mean needing access controls of various sorts and that's far too easy to fuck up). But it's funnier to roll something of one's own.

I really should adapt that to the naming schemes of the digicam and the camphone, shouldn't I?

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Date: 2006-01-19 07:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Maybe try smugmug? It's run by an excoworker.

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Date: 2006-01-19 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daneel-olivaw.livejournal.com
My homebrew one is hacked together with *hideous* shell scripts. But it's mine and I control the style.

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Date: 2006-01-19 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kineticfactory.livejournal.com
I've just tried Flickr and it sucks too.

In what way?

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Date: 2006-01-19 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kineticfactory.livejournal.com
You have tried creating photo sets in the "Organizr", right? That gives you gallery-like functionality.

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Date: 2006-01-19 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kineticfactory.livejournal.com
I'm fairly sure Flickr doesn't have any such limits. The only difference between free and paid users is that (a) free users have 1/10 of the total upload bandwidth per month (downloads are unlimited), and (b) their pages show text ads. (a) isn't that big a deal if you scale images down to screen sizes.

If you get a paid account, you get (or used to) several free 1-year subscriptions to give to friends.

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Date: 2006-01-19 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
you get three sets free at a time, afaik. I hit the limit, deleted an old one (last summer's sailing trip) and added a new one. Have had no probs making groups of photos accessible via tags.

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Date: 2006-01-19 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weatherpixie.livejournal.com
Flickr has APIs so you can just use it as backend storage for all your pictures and make the front end do what you want.

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Date: 2006-01-19 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kineticfactory.livejournal.com
For one, a lot less coding.

If you have a few hundred hours to code up your own über-l33t photo gallery system and relish the challenge, go ahead. But it'd take a lot of work to get Flickr's functionality, with its API and feeds.

Secondly, Flickr is a multiuser site, and has social-network functionality. You can put tags on your images, and also look up any images with a certain tag. (And all such queries are exposed as RSS feeds as well.) You can make a list of friends/contacts on Flickr and get a feed of their latest photos. (Incidentally, I've done this at [livejournal.com profile] acbflkrcontacts.) There are groups/communities you can post your photos to (and they can go to multiple groups). And you can see who's commented on/favourited your photos (which you can disable if you don't want that).

These are the reasons why I gave up on my homemade gallery software, incidentally.

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Date: 2006-01-19 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weatherpixie.livejournal.com
As above. Community aspect, plus the fact that if your a pro user you can back up your full size images on to flickr and have someone else worry about hard drive failure.

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Date: 2006-01-19 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] axy-666.livejournal.com
Just Taken a look @ gallery 2 it does suck mightily.. had the wonder of 3 hrs ftping it up, as no shell access on my hosting...adn then it's just a pain in the arse