totally not the sad/rabid puppies nonono

[reddragdiva]

well, the sad/rabid puppies blew their dicks off. so let's float a totally different proposal to achieve much the same result: come on down, jay maynard! he proposes a “web of trust” that would start with oooh people like himself and might even extend as far as unpatriotic poltroons like john scalzi and david gerrold.

the comments on this are amazing. ctrl-f for “scalzi” or “sjw” for examples, or just any of jay’s explanations of his great idea.

(this appears to be the rumour grrm heard about a few days ago.)

john scalzi tells him to go fuck himself in detail. more in the comments on that one.

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[pseudomonas]

The bit in the comments where he admits he's not read the books he's holding up as examples of Bad Writing Because Politicized is quite special.

[damerell]

Actually, I think this is a bit harsh.

Sure, the rationale is frothing lunacy, as one expects from Jay, and the more one questions it the more lunatic it gets. I can't imagine why (say) Cat Valente is wasting her time on this.

But he is doing something no other Puppy is doing; instead of fucking up the Hugos, he's trying to start a new award for the things the Puppies (allegedly [1]) like. In my book that puts him head and shoulders above the rest of those clowns, and I wish him every success, particularly if it diverts the rest of them.

[1] For people who don't like "boring message fic" they sure put a lot of ham-handed Catholic allegory on the ballot...

[reddragdiva]

It's "harsh" mostly if you bother with the fine distinction between sad and rabid. Jay is completely sincere, and if he can get this beyond idea stage then hey, good luck. But every individual aspect of it remains a terrible idea at best.

[damerell]

It is a pretty fine distinction (but I'm willing to grant they're not all Beale and they don't all think dragging in the 'gaters was the best idea ever)... but honestly, I only care that the implementation of the honestly-not-the-Puppy-Award is bad if it's so bad it puts off the Puppies.

And I do have to admit to having a bit more respect for Jay as (AFAIK) the only Puppy to seriously try to organise their own award instead of crapping on the Hugos.